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It took 3 years for America to expect everything Jimmy Carter stuck his fingers into to be a complete disaster. Obama has accomplished this now in a few months
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blue collar worker
2009-04-10 01:26:09 UTC
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One gets up every day now and wonders, "What will this idiot screw up
today?"
God help His children and judge the people who were deluded enough to vote
for Obama to wake them up.

I happened to be doing a few genetic recipes today and the little shoppe of
Oolong had on Rush Limbaugh who was discussing the piracy issue in Somalia
and I just never really had much of a reaction as all he was talking about
was how pirates should be termed pirates to how Hillary Clinton was terming
pirates.
That thar matey is the rub of the draw that sits in ones liver a commotion
of thought.........in how much Limbaugh is missing and his experts are flat
out wrong.

I'm not picking on Rush Limbaugh in the least, but if he understood the
situation instead of prattling on about the definition of "is" in Obama
calls terrorists criminals to be pursued by the FBI and normal people call
them terrorists who need to be slaughtered by military structures........it
just is a boring subject which is off issue.

From the first moment I saw these pirates break onto the scene, it looked to
me like they were internationally sponsored as all things Africa are by the
globalists for some agenda. Original intent looked a great deal like Obama
was going to be given a reason to plunge into Africa and take the whole
place over and run the Chinese out in the process of Susan E. Rice time.
As it continues, it is nothing more than a globalist charade to float ships
around in international cooperation, blah, blah, blah.

Limbaugh's maritime experts were explaining to him and he was leading his
audience as to why ships are not armed. The basis is one did not arm crews,
because crews looked at millions of dollars of cargo, refused to take
orders, blasted the officers and then sold the cargo and ship as their own
pirates.
Limbaugh's experts though neglected to not that America has always had armed
merchant men in Letters of Marque. Ships have always had armouries where
weapons were kept under lock and key of the Captain and unleashed in times
of boarding by pirates. That way the crew behaves and as most have knives
any way, they are not going to be in mutiny as those things just don't
happen now.
Crews are well paid, well fed, have wonderful conditions in most cases and
are quite pleased to sail the oceans in a wonderful occupation.

What is overlooked in this is all of these ships could be armed with a few
50 calibre Browning machine guns. 4 would be plenty, the crew could regulate
them and they could dust off any pirate and as one really can't haul Ma
Deuce around a ship chasing the Captain who would have his own officer's arm
shooting back.......all would be merry on the 7 seas.
An even more sporting time for the crew would be a few deck mounted old
German 88's which would blow the bajesus out of any pirate speed boat worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Wow, no one is asking how impoverished Somali's who can't afford a bag of
rice suddenly have all these cigar boats like Miami Vice scouting around.
Gee I wonder who supplied them with those boats and munitions?

Guess that is too much for the patricians to delve into as it might just
expose the charade and people would be displeased about being manipulated
again.
Goodness people, pirates have a cure called cannons shot at them. If the
governments of the world are not providing the long time cure, then it means
they are manipulating this situation for globalist purposes.

It is difficult to get excited about Somali pirates though as they just are
not the English swashbuckler, Boogeys, Japanese or Berbers. Those were
pirates who would castrate you for fun, make you bark like a dog and feed
you in pieces to sharks. These Somali's are Colin Powell kinder and gentler
pirates..........like a gummy bear knife. Not a whole lot of intimidation in
Capt. Crunch and his crunch berries.

Now though the world is being conditioned, on one hand we have Hillary
Clinton and Barack Obama saying these criminals need to arrested on an
international court system scale, and, on the other hand, we have Rush
Limbaugh telling the world that armed Citizens on ships defending themselves
is untrustworthy as people can not be trusted with guns.
Sort of sounds like the same globalist two sided coin.

I could suggest that a high pressure water cannon, with armour plating to
protect the crew which would pump enough water to drown pirates, knock
pirates off boats and filling said cigar boats with a thousand gallons of
water sinking them would also solve the problem, but hey we got pirates for
news to debate what "is" is instead of just killing the creatures on sight
as used to be the case.

American merchant shipping in it's entire history was always armed, self
sufficient and able to take care of itself, because while empires had huge
naval flotillas to rely on the American swabbie just had himself, a Captain
with a pin to bash him over the head and a few cannons for diplomacy.

The question is why are these Colin Powell pirates in Africa now suddenly an
issue when if one looks at shipping problems, the Caribbean is probably more
dangerous for hijacking and monetary loss to Americans than these kids out
of Africa with speed boats.

For that matter Mr. Limbaugh, Obama and Geither, with their European cartel
pirates have swindled from America trillions of dollars in their savings,
and are blackmailing for ransom trillions more in "Obama spending".
I guess those are the issues which matter that I would be discussing, but
then I'll only be proven right in time and no one will care.

Oh by the way, is that swashbuckler on land bin Laden still alive? I think I
heard Obama say in 2008 that he knew how to get Obama, I mean Ossama and to
kill him.

As it was so easy, I figured I must have missed it as I missed England Dan
dying a few weeks back.

voile sur la lune argentée
Gandalf Grey
2009-04-10 02:56:29 UTC
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One gets up every day now and wonders, "What will Wanker screw up today?"
God only knows.
blue collar worker
2009-04-10 14:07:59 UTC
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"blue collar worker" <***@email.com> wrote in message news:***@giganews.com...
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go so
wrong?
But who really cares?
CB
2009-04-10 14:36:39 UTC
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Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?

Blue collar workers and their union thugs
--
CB
Chicago politics doesn't work on free people.
Starkiller©
2009-04-10 14:39:22 UTC
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Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
Christopher Helms
2009-04-10 15:47:23 UTC
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Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed.  The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world.  The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tax/interviews/mcintyre.html
CB
2009-04-10 20:14:40 UTC
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Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.

Here ya go, clown

U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes


March 18, 2008

U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes

by Scott A. Hodge


Fiscal Fact No. 119

America's political leadership is finally waking up to the fact that the tax
rates businesses face in the U.S. are way out of step with our major
economic competitors. Last year, for example, Ways and Means Chairman
Charles Rangel proposed cutting the federal corporate tax rate from 35
percent to 30.5 percent. While a 5 percentage point cut in the federal
corporate tax rate may sound significant, it may not be sufficient to
meaningfully improve the competitiveness of the United States.

Currently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the
U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan's combined rate
of 39.5 percent.1 Lowering the federal rate to 30.5 percent would only lower
the U.S.'s ranking to fifth highest among industrialized countries.
...
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html
--
CB
Founding Father, John Adams, said "The moment the idea is admitted into
society that property is not sacred as the laws of God, there isn't a force
of law to protect it and anarchy and tyranny commence." So, just as the
sacred laws of God are banished so too go private property rights and
tyranny begins."
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6744

Secular Humanism means to remove God. Remove God, remove all inalienable
rights bestowed from God.

Jesus died for the sins of the world. This sinner is indebted and a servent
to Him, not a slave to man's gubment
neoconis_ignoramus
2009-04-10 20:52:41 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
March 18, 2008
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
by Scott A. Hodge
Fiscal Fact No. 119
America's political leadership is finally waking up to the fact that the tax
rates businesses face in the U.S. are way out of step with our major
economic competitors. Last year, for example, Ways and Means Chairman
Charles Rangel proposed cutting the federal corporate tax rate from 35
percent to 30.5 percent. While a 5 percentage point cut in the federal
corporate tax rate may sound significant, it may not be sufficient to
meaningfully improve the competitiveness of the United States.
Currently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the
U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan's combined rate
of 39.5 percent.1 Lowering the federal rate to 30.5 percent would only lower
the U.S.'s ranking to fifth highest among industrialized countries.
...http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html
--
CB
Founding Father, John Adams, said "The moment the idea is admitted into
society that property is not sacred as the laws of God, there isn't a force
of law to protect it and anarchy and tyranny commence." So, just as the
sacred laws of God are banished so too go private property rights and
tyranny begins."http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6744
Secular Humanism means to remove God. Remove God, remove all inalienable
rights bestowed from God.
Jesus died for the sins of the world. This sinner is indebted and a servent
to Him, not a slave to man's gubment- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Um, dumbfuck, you seem to have forgotten to include individual tax
rates in your comparison. Other countrie's individual rates often far
exceed the U.S., and they also include a VAT tax.

So I guess what you're telling us is that corporations should get the
break at the expense of citizens? Typical reichtard corporate suckup
drivel.
CB
2009-04-10 21:00:39 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
March 18, 2008
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
by Scott A. Hodge
Fiscal Fact No. 119
America's political leadership is finally waking up to the fact that the tax
rates businesses face in the U.S. are way out of step with our major
economic competitors. Last year, for example, Ways and Means Chairman
Charles Rangel proposed cutting the federal corporate tax rate from 35
percent to 30.5 percent. While a 5 percentage point cut in the federal
corporate tax rate may sound significant, it may not be sufficient to
meaningfully improve the competitiveness of the United States.
Currently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the
U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan's combined rate
of 39.5 percent.1 Lowering the federal rate to 30.5 percent would only lower
the U.S.'s ranking to fifth highest among industrialized countries.
...http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html
--
CB
Founding Father, John Adams, said "The moment the idea is admitted into
society that property is not sacred as the laws of God, there isn't a force
of law to protect it and anarchy and tyranny commence." So, just as the
sacred laws of God are banished so too go private property rights and
tyranny
begins."http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=6744
Secular Humanism means to remove God. Remove God, remove all inalienable
rights bestowed from God.
Jesus died for the sins of the world. This sinner is indebted and a servent
to Him, not a slave to man's gubment- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Um, dumbfuck,

Hey nigger, the subject be, "U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate
Taxes"
M***@dick.com
2009-04-10 23:15:47 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:14:40 -0400, "CB"
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
Then you proceed to "cite" a number of rightwing crap
sites that want no taxation at all.
unknown
2009-04-11 00:23:00 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:14:40 -0400, "CB"
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
Then you proceed to "cite" a number of rightwing crap
sites that want no taxation at all.
http://brainshavings.com/2008/10/an-obama-victory-will-cause-a-depression.html
Christopher Helms
2009-04-10 23:32:43 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
taxes are voluntary. It's only 35% on paper. After all the shelters,
loopholes, write offs, write downs, offshore havens and deductions, US
corporations are paying around 7-10% in taxes and they're bitching
their fat asses off about even that. If you had bothered to read the
link I posted you would have known that.
unknown
2009-04-11 00:35:39 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by Christopher Helms
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
35% is high, and if you chose to earn zero income you can pay zero
income tax. That makes it "voluntary"
Post by Christopher Helms
taxes are voluntary. It's only 35% on paper. After all the shelters,
loopholes, write offs, write downs, offshore havens and deductions, US
corporations are paying around 7-10% in taxes and they're bitching
their fat asses off about even that. If you had bothered to read the
link I posted you would have known that.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual
http://seekingalpha.com/article/63131-exxon-s-2007-tax-bill-30-billion

and the tax rate for Exxon was 41% in 2006 ($67.4 billion in taxable
income, $27.9 billion in taxes).
M***@dick.com
2009-04-11 14:04:26 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:39 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by Christopher Helms
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
35% is high, and if you chose to earn zero income you can pay zero
income tax. That makes it "voluntary"
It's a choice then, isn't it?

If the wealthy were taxed at 70% like they were in
1980---and not one millionaire EVER went broke because
of it----you can't argue taxation causes destruction of
a class.
unknown
2009-04-11 15:46:45 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:39 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by Christopher Helms
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
35% is high, and if you chose to earn zero income you can pay zero
income tax. That makes it "voluntary"
It's a choice then, isn't it?
Then we can spend until we qualify for welfare.
CB
2009-04-11 23:09:03 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:39 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by Christopher Helms
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
35% is high, and if you chose to earn zero income you can pay zero
income tax. That makes it "voluntary"
It's a choice then, isn't it?
If the wealthy were taxed at 70% like they were in
1980---and not one millionaire EVER went broke because
of it----you can't argue taxation causes destruction of
a class.
Jimmy Carter was President back then and the economy was as bad as Obama's.

Lower taxes and gubment hasn't the power of corruption.

Lower taxes is like kicking the Beast in the nads

Lower taxes gibs we duh pea'poe duh powwuh, not greedy pollititians on the
Left or Right
M***@dick.com
2009-04-12 04:05:52 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:09:03 -0400, "CB"
Post by CB
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:39 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by Christopher Helms
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
35% is high, and if you chose to earn zero income you can pay zero
income tax. That makes it "voluntary"
It's a choice then, isn't it?
If the wealthy were taxed at 70% like they were in
1980---and not one millionaire EVER went broke because
of it----you can't argue taxation causes destruction of
a class.
Jimmy Carter was President back then and the economy was as bad as Obama's.
Because of Oil Embargo---that's associated with the
Bush Clan.
Post by CB
Lower taxes and gubment hasn't the power of corruption.
Bullshit

The more government remains out of the picture---the
more corrupt, greedy power takes over. Evidence recent
CEO compensaton while business are destroyed.
Post by CB
Lower taxes is like kicking the Beast in the nads
Lower taxes on the wealth class only means they get
richer.
Post by CB
Lower taxes gibs we duh pea'poe duh powwuh,
No, it does not

Lower taxes mean less federalism----and higher power
and corruption in states.
CB
2009-04-11 02:55:36 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Indeed. The US currently has the second highest corporate tax rate in
the world. The dumbasses on the left keep whining about people moving
their companies overseas while simultaneously yelling that they should
be taxed into oiblivion in order to make them stay.
That's liberal logic for you.
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Here ya go, clown
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
Oh, so now we're number one? Well why not? You're just substituting
one load of shit for another. That "35%" number you wingnuts love to
parrot has about as much practical validity as the claim that income
taxes are voluntary. It's only 35% on paper. After all the shelters,
loopholes, write offs, write downs, offshore havens and deductions, US
corporations are paying around 7-10% in taxes and they're bitching
their fat asses off about even that. If you had bothered to read the
link I posted you would have known that.

You're as ignorant as Barney Fwank.

Corporations Don't Pay Taxes, People Do
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/14586/Corporations_Dont_Pay_Taxes_People_Do.html
Higher corporate taxes are passed on to the consumer, idiot!

I'm for the Flat Tax, are you?

Do you know why or care why Congress will never pass the Fair Tax? Because
most pollitition don't see private wealth as personal property. You see it
as stolen money exploited from victims of corporate greed. Socialism is
greed for what habitual wise choice has accomplished using Social Justice as
the tool.

If there were Justice in this world, the Bible would be man's guide, not the
personal will of Barney Fwank, Obama, Meeks, Waters and Biden to rob from
the rish and gib to their friends, as if trickle-down works in greedy
gubment
M***@dick.com
2009-04-10 23:14:52 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
unknown
2009-04-11 00:22:20 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If
you're one of the givers creating jobs and capital, you'll only tolerate
punishment for so long before you take rational steps to reduce your
vulnerability. You'll start shifting your capital away from productive
uses and into tax shelters dictated by loopholes in the law. You'll cut
costs by hiring fewer employees or getting rid of current employees. You
might even decide to escape the punishment of the takers by closing down
your business or moving it overseas to a country with friendlier tax
policies.
http://brainshavings.com/2008/10/an-obama-victory-will-cause-a-depression.html
CB
2009-04-11 03:06:32 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If you're
one of the givers creating jobs and capital, you'll only tolerate
punishment for so long before you take rational steps to reduce your
vulnerability. You'll start shifting your capital away from productive
uses and into tax shelters dictated by loopholes in the law. You'll cut
costs by hiring fewer employees or getting rid of current employees. You
might even decide to escape the punishment of the takers by closing down
your business or moving it overseas to a country with friendlier tax
policies.
http://brainshavings.com/2008/10/an-obama-victory-will-cause-a-depression.html
Then Libs will resort to real Fascism to get them greedy bastards who value
their hard earned money enough to fight for it
M***@dick.com
2009-04-11 14:02:37 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:06:32 -0400, "CB"
Post by CB
Then Libs will resort to real Fascism to get them greedy bastards who value
their hard earned money enough to fight for it
Dumb assholes like you don't see the stupidity of
making generalizations like you do

You infer that ALL their money is taken

MOF, only a TINY portion of their money is recirculated
into society via taxation

THEY circulate SOME--by investment or business---but
they do NOT go broke just because they are taxed.
unknown
2009-04-11 14:26:50 UTC
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Post by CB
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If you're
one of the givers creating jobs and capital, you'll only tolerate
punishment for so long before you take rational steps to reduce your
vulnerability. You'll start shifting your capital away from productive
uses and into tax shelters dictated by loopholes in the law. You'll cut
costs by hiring fewer employees or getting rid of current employees. You
might even decide to escape the punishment of the takers by closing down
your business or moving it overseas to a country with friendlier tax
policies.
http://brainshavings.com/2008/10/an-obama-victory-will-cause-a-depression.html
Then Libs will resort to real Fascism to get them greedy bastards who value
their hard earned money enough to fight for it
The Obama socialists already activated their *Red Shirts* from ACORN to
harass the "evil" rich and now the Socialists are trying to figure out
which prison camps and gas chambers to use to get rid of the rich.


The direction they are going has already been written in history, we
just need to sit and watch history repeat its self.
M***@dick.com
2009-04-11 14:01:02 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:22:20 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers.
Nonsense

The wealthy keep earning more and more, and having the
GOP side with them to starve the rest.

The progressive tax code allows them to be
millionaires, earn (and keep) millions, and that cannot
destroy the wealth class.

They fight no wars, and mostly use their wealth to
screw those who do.
CB
2009-04-11 23:26:26 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:22:20 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers.
Nonsense
The wealthy keep earning more and more, and having the
GOP side with them to starve the rest.
The progressive tax code allows them to be
millionaires, earn (and keep) millions, and that cannot
destroy the wealth class.
They fight no wars, and mostly use their wealth to
screw those who do.
Obama, through Barney Fwank, Timothy Geithner and Charlie Rangel will
destroy Capitalism through endless red tape, permitting, domination of big
oil, big Pharmacia, big auto and helt'cay.

Anyone with a brain knows offshore is where its at and soon Rangel will try
to punish that so all aspiring entrepreneurs will develop else where...where
they're appreciated.

Like the revived Roman Empire, as it 'is' Written
M***@dick.com
2009-04-12 04:06:34 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:26:26 -0400, "CB"
Post by CB
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:22:20 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
America cannot keep confiscating more and more money from the givers and
sending it to the takers.
Nonsense
The wealthy keep earning more and more, and having the
GOP side with them to starve the rest.
The progressive tax code allows them to be
millionaires, earn (and keep) millions, and that cannot
destroy the wealth class.
They fight no wars, and mostly use their wealth to
screw those who do.
Obama, through Barney Fwank, Timothy Geithner and Charlie Rangel will
destroy Capitalism through endless red tape, permitting, domination of big
oil, big Pharmacia, big auto and helt'cay.
Not one fucking company ever went broke because of
Taxation

Nor did any Millionare
CB
2009-04-11 03:03:31 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
Name one person besides Libs like Franklin (looted Fanney Mae) Raines and
John Corzine who looted Goldman Sachs ) who've gone from rags to riches
using trickle-up taxes.

Name one poor sole who gave a rich dude a job?
Tim Crowley
2009-04-11 15:40:56 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
Name one person besides Libs like Franklin (looted  Fanney Mae) Raines and
John Corzine who looted Goldman Sachs ) who've gone from rags to riches
using trickle-up taxes.
Name one poor sole who gave a rich dude a job?
Oh my god. Have you never read or studied or learned anything.
Making riches off the poor is a time honored tradition. The real
question is how did someone get so fucking dumb, as to ask such a
question?

hint: study the issue for half a minute (that means reading past the
headline) learn something for once in your miserable hate filed life.
CB
2009-04-11 23:29:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT), Christopher
Post by Christopher Helms
This is yet another one of those Republican talking points that gets
endlessly repeated because it sounds like it ought to be true.
Plus---they can't provide the name of even ONE (1)
Millionaire that ever went broke because of
over-taxation prior to Reagans "trickle-down" tax cuts
for the wealthy.
Name one person besides Libs like Franklin (looted Fanney Mae) Raines and
John Corzine who looted Goldman Sachs ) who've gone from rags to riches
using trickle-up taxes.
Name one poor sole who gave a rich dude a job?
Oh my god. Have you never read or studied or learned anything.
Making riches off the poor is a time honored tradition.

Yeah, as in raising tobacco taxes which hurts the poor the most.

The real
question is how did someone get so fucking dumb, as to ask such a
question?

Sorry nigger, I don't respond to 'low life speak'.

hint: study the issue for half a minute (that means reading past the
headline) learn something for once in your miserable hate filed life.
M***@dick.com
2009-04-12 04:07:11 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:29:45 -0400, "CB"
Post by CB
Yeah, as in raising tobacco taxes which hurts the poor the most.
Nonsense

Tobacco is a vice---an unneeded commodity

L. Garrison
2009-04-10 15:06:43 UTC
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Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Are you dense?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/business/10markets.html
There is more money in the system than ever.
CB
2009-04-10 15:16:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by L. Garrison
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Are you dense?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/business/10markets.html
There is more money in the system than ever.
Splain it too me as if I were as dumb as you
unknown
2009-04-10 17:20:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by L. Garrison
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party go
so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Are you dense?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/business/10markets.html
There is more money in the system than ever.
Obama just printed it, it's Monopoly® Money. Who cares how much there
is, what's it worth?
CB
2009-04-10 21:06:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Post by L. Garrison
Post by CB
Post by blue collar worker
One gets up every day now and wonders, where did the Republican Party
go so wrong?
But who really cares?
Who will Obama rob after well to do entrepreneurs move operations out of
reach of the Party of greed?
Blue collar workers and their union thugs
Are you dense?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/business/10markets.html
There is more money in the system than ever.
Obama just printed it, it's Monopoly® Money. Who cares how much there
is, what's it worth?
All that money 'is' trickling down to people like George Soros and his
501c3's. In turn he can funnel it to ACORN, polling for result oriented
non-profits, daily kooks and any other Leftist without oversight from
regulators. Maxine Waters, Barney Fwank, Biden, Dodd and Meeks took care of
them with fingers of racism.
M***@dick.com
2009-04-10 23:16:33 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:55 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama just printed it,
Sorry, but your lying sack of shit Bush spent all
Clinton gave him, then borrowed a couple trillion from
our enemy---china.
unknown
2009-04-11 00:39:24 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:55 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama just printed it,
Sorry, but your lying sack of shit Bush spent all
Clinton gave him, then borrowed a couple trillion from
our enemy---china.
Which doesn't change the FACT that Obama spent $3.5 trillion in his
first 90 days.
M***@dick.com
2009-04-11 14:06:48 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:39:24 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:55 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama just printed it,
Sorry, but your lying sack of shit Bush spent all
Clinton gave him, then borrowed a couple trillion from
our enemy---china.
Which doesn't change the FACT that Obama spent $3.5 trillion in his
first 90 days.
That's like claiming it's not rational to hand a
perfectly good car over to someone---and after driving
it 8 years he hands it over to the next guy with all
the windows out, the tires flat (or missing), the
engine not running, the upholstry gone---then not HAVE
to spend money to repair it.

You dumb fuckwit.
unknown
2009-04-11 15:49:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:39:24 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Post by M***@dick.com
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:20:55 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama just printed it,
Sorry, but your lying sack of shit Bush spent all
Clinton gave him, then borrowed a couple trillion from
our enemy---china.
Which doesn't change the FACT that Obama spent $3.5 trillion in his
first 90 days.
That's like claiming it's not rational to hand a
perfectly good car over to someone---and after driving
it 8 years he hands it over to the next guy with all
the windows out, the tires flat (or missing), the
engine not running, the upholstry gone---then not HAVE
to spend money to repair it.
You dumb fuckwit.
Obama isn't fixing, he's Gambling and doing it stupidly by betting in a
game where he has no knowledge of how the game is played.


Obama is an economic idiot.
M***@dick.com
2009-04-11 22:04:55 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:49:45 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama isn't fixing, he's Gambling and doing it stupidly by betting in a
game where he has no knowledge of how the game is played.
How can that be a rational conclusion

You're defending a fuckwit that screwed it up---meaning
none of his (bush's) "advisors" knew what they were
doing.

If you kept your nose up Bush's ass for 8 years,
(actually since 1994 and the GOP dominated
congress)---and never said a word----then you haven't
the crediblity to make the judgment "he's gambling"
CB
2009-04-11 23:32:42 UTC
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Post by M***@dick.com
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:49:45 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama isn't fixing, he's Gambling and doing it stupidly by betting in a
game where he has no knowledge of how the game is played.
How can that be a rational conclusion
You're defending a fuckwit that screwed it up---meaning
none of his (bush's) "advisors" knew what they were
doing.
If you kept your nose up Bush's ass for 8 years,
(actually since 1994 and the GOP dominated
congress)---and never said a word----then you haven't
the crediblity to make the judgment "he's gambling"
Oh for the good ole days where I got a Christmas bonus, a Christmas goose
and all the overtime I wanted
M***@dick.com
2009-04-12 04:02:39 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:32:42 -0400, "CB"
Post by CB
Post by M***@dick.com
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:49:45 -0400, Poetic Justice
Post by unknown
Obama isn't fixing, he's Gambling and doing it stupidly by betting in a
game where he has no knowledge of how the game is played.
How can that be a rational conclusion
You're defending a fuckwit that screwed it up---meaning
none of his (bush's) "advisors" knew what they were
doing.
If you kept your nose up Bush's ass for 8 years,
(actually since 1994 and the GOP dominated
congress)---and never said a word----then you haven't
the crediblity to make the judgment "he's gambling"
Oh for the good ole days where I got a Christmas bonus, a Christmas goose
and all the overtime I wanted
All the time the massive flow of wealth went upward.

Infrastructure crumbled

Old people lost homes

The sick and mentally unstable became "street people"
and "Bag Ladies"

The nation became polarized

Millionaires became Billionaires

Not a single good thing ever came from the Reagan
Adminstration.
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